Purchasing Conservation Land for one off Events
A good and cheap way to get a foothold on Land Owning is to purchase conservation land. Conservation land cannot be built on or lived on but can be used for holidays and one off events. Because there is little that can be done with conservation land it is usually cheap to buy. It's my suggestion that we could use this type of land to hold events such as <a href="http://www.havenheed.com/group/havenheednationaldaygroupdbmce" target=new>Havenheed National Day</a>, <a href="http://www.havenheed.com/group/havenheedmusicfestivalgroupdbmce" target=new>Havenheed Music Festival</a> and perhaps use as a short term holiday or sports event facility.
This land need only be a few hundred square metres to get us started. In the U.K. sites such as <a href="http://www.uklandagent.co.uk/index.html" target=new>uklandagent</a> sell land plots of a few hundred square metres in quite accessible and convenient locations such as the county of Devon. Devon is in the southwest of the U.K. which is overall the most vegan friendly and politically liberal area of the country. If we were to hold a commercial event this would be an ideal location as it would be close to vegan friendly cities such as Bristol and Bath.
UK Land Agency is offering plots of land for as little as £1,500 (1,768 Euros, 2,360 U.S. Dollars). I could probably raise this money myself and perhaps get help from local interested parties.
Pooling our financial resources over the internet when we live so far away from eachother can be a great logistical difficulty. And building a large scale paradise on a large number of acres or an island where we can all move to seems like a distant dream. But purchasing a small piece of land in major countries of the world for commercial purposes is a very realistic goal.
Anyway I was wondering what people think of this and would you be interested in purchasing cheap small scale land in your country/locality for commercial purposes? If we got pieces of land all over the world then Havenheed National Day could be somewhat longer than 24 hours...
*Links didn't come out. This is the only external one (UK Land Agency)
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Permalink Reply by Rand Foxwillow on -
need to pay taxes on conservation land? do they actually define "living on" the land, too? i don't see how we can own the land but not build or live on it, that seems pretty shitty.
seems like a good idea but not the best idea all at once. the actual havenheed IS a distant dream, but diversion only makes it more distant. i do see a lot of negatives and positives to this. discussions on our national laws and guns and cuisine and all these kinds of things seem entirely pointless if we are putting off going for "the goal" of land alongside business
although, perhaps tracts of land could be found that are conservation that we would be able to live off the earth and green? i'm sure by now everyone is familiar with the little "hobbit homes" that can be made pretty easily... maybe with incredibly limited, natural building and living styles, we could have a havenheed on conservation land as a sort of resort (as originally planned?)
regardless, this does seem like a good idea from a embassy/promotion standpoint. perhaps we could get donations or something if we promote our little "havenheed days." i just fear that actual effectiveness would mean several int he US and UK and a few in canada, and we're probably looking at at least 50-100K spent on land that we can't do much with which would put us almost 1/5 of the way to the land for our villiage... -.-
mmm... the double-edged sword...
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Permalink Reply by Development Department on -
I have to do some research as far as taxes on land are concerned in the U.K. One law I was told about is that you are technically allowed to have non permanent structures such as caravans on conservation land for about a month each year. However I'm not sure exactly what the legal consequences would be if you kept them for longer.
There is another option called "Investment Land" which if you buy you can put in an application to build on it but there is no guarantee.
Perhaps we should start discussing a one off urban event in a hired venue or something similar. I think a good way of expanding Havenheed is by linking up with local vegan groups already in existence.
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