"I feel the same veganism is like a religion for me.I would not want to touch in vitro meat. It s been a while since I heard about this but it starts from animal tissue doesn't it?. Can veganism be a religion though! doesn't it have to have…"
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how the food would go down with the prisoners. without some form of Incentive to try it, I could see it causing a riot! if weed okara were to be served without…"
"What weeds have you used for this? have you deep fried it? to get it to bind together.Wow I would love to see food like this introduced in prisons. Would we be forcing prisoners to become vegan by only giving them vegan food?"
To be honest I'd be quite content with well equipped caravans. I hadn't heard of Brithdir Mawr before. It looks great (minus the non-vegan products). However I think there are good political and practical reasons for choosing Wales. The Land is cheaper than in England and more sparsely populated. Also do you think it would make Havenheed popular in Wales if it supported Welsh independence?
Thank you! I think Wales looks like a promising area to start a brand new vegan commune. With a number of citizens already living and active there. Plus Ethical Wares has its home there, they gave me a lot of excellent footwear throughout the years.
Hi Al...yes I did understand Herbivore Lion's comment about my birthdate...cheeky devil making fun of my typos....lol...have decided to leave it as it is!!!
I had been a lacto vegetarian from the age of 3 and decided to turn vegan with my daughter in feb this year...I just wish I had done it much earlier on....better late than never i suppose. It is very easy being a vegan where i live in Hastings and I'm beginning to meet fellow vegans in my favourite health shop in the town. Thinking about it, being a vegan is just like being a vegetarian some 30 years ago..I just make sure that I always have a few vegan goodies on me if I am going somewhere new and don't know what food is available. I am really enjoying a new way of baking and have even developed a taste for nutritional yeast flakes, something that i thought would never happen...lol. I can honestly say that i don't miss cheese at all, and i thought that would be my biggest problem. My daughter likes the meat substitutes but I can not eat anything that looks like meat. I'm currently trying to wean my dogs off meat but am not having much success on that front at the moment, but I wont give up and am ever hopeful to persuade them to sample other food.
Is it easy being a vegan where you live Al?
Blessed be, Sharon xxx
Hi Al, yes, I agree with you that it is good to come on to Havenheed and know there are others who share my beliefs and the good and the difficulties that entails. I also find that on Facebook. I am in touch with people on there also who are vegan and against using other animals, indeed, using the rest of the Earth, as if we own it or are more important than anything else. I would love to live in a society where I could move, live and breathe as one of many species with respect and love for all. Unless we dream it can never be. Blessings, Elaine XXX
I honestly don't know how I came up with specifically "Havenheed", but I'd been experimenting with different names and knew I wanted "haven" to be a part of it - self explanatory, I guess. Many other names were already taken, like "havenland" and such, but "Havenheed" had a nice ring to it, I felt, and started to sound like a thing in itself, like a place, and not just the two words it was built up from.
Of course the word "heed" in itself also meant a great deal in the thought behind the concept of this nation; that we must never loose sight of the process of creating a haven; it isn't 'heaven', ready-made and filled with goodness, but rather us citizens who will create this land, and who must continually guard and develop it - hopefully also with a large portion of pride in such an achievement (let's not kid ourselves, we have a long way yet to go...).
Thanks for joining and your comment. My hope is to produce a "universal food" or at least one suitable for humans, dogs and cats. The way I look at it is that something like ham is a food that most humans, dogs and cats would eat. We need to find a vegan food that has a taste that appeals to all three species and then adjust the nutrients accordingly. My attempt at the moment is Okara Power Cake. I'm going to put up more precise recipes of it soon so people can try it out.